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Vegetarians, From the Other Point of View!

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Mitchell & Webb UKTV 2009. Do you know an annoying vegetarian?

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IoEstasCedonta August 14, 2010 at 1:40 am

@truth2748 I’m aware that B12 is produced by neither plants or animals, but most animals need it, and herbivores eat fecally contaminated plants. Humans who do so have been found to have adequate B12 levels, but that has obvious drawbacks. If “we now know,” i.e. consensus is, that the intestine is a reliable source, why hasn’t the UK Vegan Society seized on this? It’s presumably in their interest.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 1:55 am

@IoEstasCedonta Continue. B12 deficiencies occurred primarily when: 1.) Parasites were competing with cyanocobalamin deposits in the intestine; 2.) Existing health issues such as cyanide in cigarettes destroyed the hydroxocobalamin before it transformed into B12; or 3.) An unknown issue prevented the proper absorption of B12 (like inadequate production of intrinsic factor).

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 2:37 am

In my research(first hand human trials), most subjects with B12 deficiencies and/or pernicious anemia were NOT vegans. Very few vegans had pernicious anemia.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 3:25 am

@IoEstasCedonta Continue. So, the source of B12 is not plants OR animals; neither manufacture their own B12. You as a human, are very likely to inadvertently consume the necessary bacteria needed by your body to last a lifetime. The mouth, upper intestine, and lower intestine all contain bacteria that produce B12. We now know that enough bacteria is produced by the body to avoid any deficiencies.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 3:32 am

@IoEstasCedonta I won’t explain the entire B12 myth since I don’t think YT is the forum for it. But I highly suggest you read further on the subject(not google). I wrote and published a 1500 page report for New England, but I’m not the only one. Most people will read a quick report on google and make up their minds. Let me start by refuting your first statement-All of the Vitamin B12 in the world ultimately comes from bacteria. Neither plants nor animals can synthesize it.

EdNortonisMineLol August 14, 2010 at 4:25 am

“I’ll have that with some rice” XD

MargotVoguey August 14, 2010 at 5:02 am

@Gusdor Don’t be an ignorant twat. Humans may well have needed to be omnivores years ago, but to know that what we’re doing (by eating meat) is destroying the environment (that WE NEED TO SURVIVE) and our bodies (our society eats a seriously unhealthy amount of meat) is moronic.
Instead of enslaving non-human animals, a SENSIBLE thing to do is to use our brains to think about what we’re doing in a logical way.
Idiot.

MargotVoguey August 14, 2010 at 6:01 am

“Eat meat to save animals”?! What a load of bs. Clearly, most of the people on here think humans are the most important animals. Eat animals, and you’re MUCH more likely to die early, or get serious medical problems. Vegans are about half as likely to get cancer than omnivores – not just because vegetables often contain powerful anti-carcinogens, but also because they’re less likely to get things like colon cancer, because the diet is so much more digestible.
Shove that up your cancerous arses!

IoEstasCedonta August 14, 2010 at 6:18 am

@truth2748 Okay, this? This is WRONG and DANGEROUS. Cobalamin deficiency is a recognized medical condition, and it can kill you. You don’t need much, but if you don’t eat ANY animal products or fortified (or contaminated) foods, the oxygen supply to your brain will slow as the cobalamin in your body decays, and that leads to about what you’d expect.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 6:49 am

@juirtle You are repeating common biology as understood back in the 1980′s. We also thought the average human needed an enormous amount of protein. I know that most of this new information hasn’t made it to high school and college text books yet, but it is really annoying to keep hearing the same unfounded assertions. You DO NOT need any more vitamin B12.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 6:52 am

@IoEstasCedonta Humans are certainly speciesist, but I would prefer to say that our anthropocentric behavior is what we will succumb to in the end.

mustardrawrs August 14, 2010 at 7:14 am

I’d rather have animals never exist than have them be breeded with a cruel life leading only to death… Staying veggie(: plus cows are needed for milk so yeah. Chickens for eggs. Pigs… Err?? I duhnoo..

Steve7508 August 14, 2010 at 7:22 am

There’s an irony in the fact that fewer animals would exist if everyone turned veggie. Farmers wouldn’t bother breeding them if there was no money in it, so the fields would be empty. Eat meat to save animals!

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juirtle August 14, 2010 at 8:36 am

was referring to the vegan part

juirtle August 14, 2010 at 9:30 am

@IoEstasCedonta hi, thanks for your reply:) yes that’s true. It is possible to get enough B12 without supplements though, but it is very difficult (when only consuming non-fortified products in from which b12 is possible to absorb) and it depends what products are available in your region. and it is probably not so tasty also. So it would be more realistic to take supplements for most.

IoEstasCedonta August 14, 2010 at 10:16 am

@grinner24 Who are you (allegedly) “talking” to?

(Vegaterians: believe one’s sustenance should be grown in the rings of Vega.)

IoEstasCedonta August 14, 2010 at 10:58 am

@truth2748 …dammit, sorry, the little @ thing didn’t show; this was in response to someone (now-suspended “alltoohuman17″) accusing us all of “speciesism, the arbitrary prejudice against those not of the species homo sapien.”

Although I would say that for acts against nonhuman animals, it’s reasonable to take such moral precedent into account. It may be wrong, but it’s certainly not “just as wrong.” And surprisingly few NEED meat: mostly feliform carnivores (like… er, their cat).

stueynoswad August 14, 2010 at 11:42 am

@Gusdor I particularly enjoy hearing the humanity lectures from those vegetarians to whom you then point out and ask “Are those leather shoes you are wearing….?”

stueynoswad August 14, 2010 at 12:25 pm

@victoriaapple18 You may well have an “undegraduate” and are “seking your masters” but you sure can’t spell for toffee!!

Gusdor August 14, 2010 at 1:10 pm

The point of this sketch is to demonstrate the one-sided nature of how a single vegetarian _will_ dominate the diet of anyone dining in the same house.

It is largely undeniable unless the cook goes to serious lengths.

Humans are designed to be omnivorous. Sure, restrict your diet unnecessarily if you must but don’t force it down the throat of everyone else. Sure, you will claim you have more humanity but who is behaving more like a human?

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 1:14 pm

@IoEstasCedonta Continue. To demonstrate the absurdity of seeking moral precedents from nonhuman animals, consider the following variants of the question:
“In Nature, animals steal food from each other; so why should it be wrong for humans [to steal]?” “In Nature, animals kill and eat humans; so why should it be wrong for
humans [to kill and eat humans]?”

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 2:10 pm

@IoEstasCedonta Predatory animals must kill to eat. Humans, in contrast, have a choice;
they need not eat meat to survive. Humans differ from nonhuman animals in being capable of conceiving of, and acting in accordance with, a system of morals; therefore, we cannot seek moral guidance or precedent from nonhuman animals. The Vegan philosophy asserts that it is just as wrong for a human to kill and eat a sentient nonhuman as it is to kill and eat a sentient human.

truth2748 August 14, 2010 at 3:08 pm

Idiotic but funny.

grinner24 August 14, 2010 at 3:41 pm

fucking douchebag die your not a vegaterian die skin alive spit on fuck you stupid catholic douchebag

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